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VILLAGE BOARD MEMBER JOHN HAAN,HUSBAND OF AMY HAAN, |
THE PICTURES I HAVE POSTED ARE SOME OF THE VOCAL FOLKS AT THIS BOARD MEETING, I SHALL BE POSTING OTHERS SO BEAR WITH ME,:)I POSTED THERE PICTURES SO YOU ARE ABLE TO PLACE A FACE WITH SOME OF THERE RIDICULOUS STATEMENTS AND COMMENTS IN THIS BOARD MEETING, YOU WILL SCRATCH YOUR HEAD,
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THIS IS AMY HAAN,WIFE OF CORDOVA BOARD MEMBER JOHN HAAN, |
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THIS IS JULIE HAGER,MOTHER OF JOHN HAGER,FROM THE FAMOUS CHRIS MINOR TV VIDEO. WHO HAPPENED TO ADMIT HE LIED IN THE INTERVIEW.HE APOLOGIZED,WHERE IS JULIE,S? |
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HAHAHA I CANT EVEN LOOK WITHOUT LAUGHING,,,THIS IS BILL SOMERS FACEBOOK PROFILE PICTURE!THE HEARTS ADD A NICE TOUCH.WONDER IF HES EVER DID TIME:) |
THIS IS THE JULY 8TH BOARD MEETING,I WILL BE POSTING THE FACTS TO SOME OF THE STATEMENTS FOLKS DID MAKE AT LATER TIME,BUT READ HOW MORONIC THESE FOLKS ACT AND SOUND LIKE.AND WHAT IS SCARY IS THEY REPRESENT THE VILLAGE,YIKES!
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PATSY FIDLAR DOES NOT LIKE ANYONE TO COME AGAINST HER,THIS IS FREE SPEECH.BUT SHE HAS THE BULLY MENTALITY AS THE OTHERS I SHALL BE POSTING HER COMMENTS WHICH ARE IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF 1ST AMENDMENT |
Village of Cordova
Special meeting for
police matters and possible action
Friday, July 8, 2011
A Special meeting
was called to order in the Conference Room at the Village Hall at the request
of Dean Moyer, John Haan, John Myers and Patsy Fidlar to discuss police matters
and possible action at 6:30PM on Friday, July 8, 2011.
Roll Call-
trustees in attendance were Larry Dhooge, Dean Moyer, John Myers, Patsy Fidlar
and John Haan. Absent was trustee Bruce
Wood.
Citizens in
attendance- Dispatch- Lyle Ernst and Bill Mayoroff, Amy Haan, Del Moyer, Ken
McCool, Tom Ray, Jim Boone, Candy Moyer, Bill Somers, Julie Hager, TJ Marsden,
Jim Hines.
Dean, we asked
for this meeting to address some police issues. We have 2 officers who are working 40 hours when they were hired
for 20 hours. We never approved them to
work 40 hours. John Haan and Dean, they were hired for 20 hours. Dean, when
they are working 40 hours we have the additional expenses for IMRF and the benefits. If we want a Police Chief we need to hire a
Chief and that decision should be up to the Board.
A
motion was made by Dean Moyer to not let the part-time police officers exceed
20 hours per week. The motion
was 2nd by John Haan.
John Myers, I
have heard Goossen’s is the Police Chief and that was not approved by the
Board. Amy, he has been quoted in the
newspaper and has been on TV.
EXCUSE ME MISS AMY,EDUCATED NURSE, CAN YOU PLEASE POST WHAT TV STATION, AND NEWSPAPER,DATES AND TIMES I SAID THI?YOUR FAITHFUL BORAD MEMBER JOHN MYERS SEEMS LOST ON THIS ISSUE AS YOU CAN SEE AND GUESS WHAT?SHE ISNT A NURSE! SHE IS A AID.
> To: ; johnmyersmisp@hotmail.com;
> From: Illinois@yahoo.com
> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 20:05:20 +0000
>
> Dear Counsel member John Meyers, on july15 at 2.14 pm I made a phone call to you asking for the following information, 1. Dates and times and what channel I made statement that I was the Cordova Police Chief. 2. Dates and time and what paper I did also make that statement. As according to Cordova village meeting minutes you stated that I was on TV and in Paper, and I said I was the Cordova Police Chief, hence the reason for my call to you. As I am aware you are quite busy and time does get away from us, I am inquiring when I may be getting the requested information as per our phone call you said you would be gathering the requested information for me. I thank you in advance for your consideration in my request, and look forward to receiving these documents soon.
"John Myers" <johnmyersmisp@hotmail.com>
To:
illinoisdeputy7777@yahoo.com
I must have only assumed(YOU ASSUMED?)BUT YOU SAID IN THE MEETING YOU SAW AND READ and thought its what I heard(MR MYERS, YOU SAID THAT I DID IT,YOU DIDN'T SAY IN THE MEETING ITS WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU HEARD) because I can't find anything. Probably because you took got Todd's and Wallets posts after they left. Barb and I both thought you were chief. Sorry about that. LOL SORRY HE SAID,(SORRY ABOUT THAT?) SEE READERS, THEY CAN JUST LIE, AND DEFAME, AND SLANDER SOMEONE AND THINK THAT IF THEY SAY,SORRY ABOUT THAT,ITS OK,UNBELIVEABLE
Larry, we have never named a chief.
Bob, Ray
Goossen’s is the ranking officer and both of the part-time officers have assumes
the duties normally performed by the Chief.
INSTEAD OF THEM SEEING WE WERE TRYING TO HELP THE CITY OUT, THEY STARTED THERE BULLY TACTICS
I am the only one that can appoint a Police Chief. Marty has also stepped up and is working
more hours. Pat, Marty is not working over the 20 hours per week.
John Haan, we
have had enough complaints and we have given enough warnings.HERE I FIND FUNNY,SO IF YOU GET COMPLAINTS FROM KNOWN CRIMINALS, THERE CREDIBILITY IS TO BE BELIEVED?WOW SEE THE MINDSET OF THE GO4? Text messages and
emails we need to dismiss the probationary officer.
The motion for
part time police officers not to exceed 20 hours per week was passed with a 5
aye roll call vote.
Pat, we continue to have
issues with Officer Gaines’ conduct. He
is probationary and needs to be dismissed at this time and that is my motion. The motion was 2nd by
Dean Moyer.
Bob based on
the “probation” and not filling probation duties is not true. He is not
probationary and it is stated in the
minutes he was on a 6 month probation.
Bob, in a sense
of fairness I would like to read the letter Bruce Wood prepared for tonight in
his absence-“ they did not consult with me to see if I was available. Unfortunately I am not. They did not ask me
or to my knowledge any other member of the police committee for input. They called this meeting with full knowledge
of the on-going investigation that I am leading to gather the facts and truths
about incidents and allegations made about the Cordova Police Department and
some of its members.”
(See attached complete letter)
Pat, month after
month we have talked about Ryan being on probation and not until now did you
say he was only on 6 months probation. We have been mislead-never did you say
he was 6 months. Last month I asked if we were going to let his
probation period run out. John Haan, I would like to see a copy of the minutes
so stating that- I feel the same way Pat does. I have had it with the
harassment.
Bob, I have read
the minutes and we can have the Clerk access the minutes if you will take a 5
minute recess and let her find it. Pat questioned what the Employee Handbook
says? Bob, I think it says 1 year. Pat, that is exactly what it
says. Bob, as I understand it the Board agreed otherwise. When he was hired the it was specifically
said in the minutes. I did not say at
anytime he was a probationary officer. It was you saying that. We need to let Sharon get the minutes.
(meeting was
supposed to be in recess) Ken McCool, I
don’t recall the exact date he was hired but I know he had to bet
recertification and I thought he was on probation for a year and that was the
way it was represented.
Bob in the
State of Illinois it doesn’t matter if you are probationary or not anyhow.
Ken, this is
not a union situation and Illinois is an at-will State.THIS IS SAME GUY THAT WAS SUSPENDED FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR TAKING THE DEPARTMENT BOAT OUT WITHOUT PERMISSION TO GET HIS SON.THE SAME SON THAT STABBED SOMEONE IN CORDOVA 4 TIMES,
John Haan,
Bruce had the opportunity to call this meeting and he did not. We said the meeting would be the first week
of July. He had every opportunity.
Amy questioned
why the surveys were sent out without the Boards approval?
( Sharon
returned to the meeting with the minute Book)
December 16, 2010-Journal of Proceedings of the Board Meeting, page 7
“Carol made a
motion to hire Ryan Gaines at $10.50 per hour as a part-time police officer for
the Village of Cordova. After a 90 day evaluation he will be raised to $11.33
the current rate for part-time officers.
Ken questioned if Ryan would have to take the 40 hour on-line refresher
course. Larry, Ryan has other police
experience and I talked to him myself last night. Carol noted the probationary period is 6 months. The motion to hire Ryan was passed with a 5
aye roll call vote. Patsy Fidlar voted
nay”.HOWS THAT FOR YOU PAT?
Ken McCool
questioned if the 90 day evaluation was done?
Dean, I will
retract my motion.THIS GUY IS DUMBER THEN A BOX OF HAMMERS
Pat, Carol did
not know what she was doing. I am
making a motion that Ryan be dismissed for not meeting the expectations of a
police officer. The motion was 2nd by John Haan and followed
with a 5 aye roll call vote.
Bob, I am going
to veto that motion so that you have the right to override it at the next
meeting when Bruce has been given the opportunity to present the facts. He has put a lot of time into his
research. I am not disputing the emails
were sent but Bruce’s letter, which I just read also say, “ I have found no
evidence so far that any current member of the Cordova Police Department have
committed any felonies as has been alleged. I have found no evidence of
anything in the background of any current member of the department that would
disqualify them based on the historical hiring standards of the department. I
have found no solid evidence of any current member of the department taking
actions that violate the laws of the State of Illinois or ordinances and
policies of the Village and Township of Cordova.”
John Haan, there
were to be 2 members from this Board on the Police Committee and Bruce is
saying he doesn’t care what Dean and I think.MAYBE BEWCAUSE YOUR MINDSET IS EVIL AND ONE SIDED, Amy, Bruce was hand-picked. Bob,
we did say at the last meeting the committees would consist of 2 Board members
but we also said the Police Committee would have a Village representative ,
Township representative and a citizen. John Haan, we need to audit the minutes and
the tape.
John Myers,
Bruce and I were to co-chair with the Finances and the Police Department. Bruce
was communicating with me prior to my vacation and when I return it is a
Township guy and this lady. I supported the decision to include a Township
person and a citizen. It is now also a
“commission” and we said “committee”.
Bob, it is just a
play on wording. Andrea always said she
was the Police Commission and it carried over to Carol too.
John Myers, they
are not legally trained, they have no badges.THIS GUY MAKES THE DUMBEST STATEMENTS.
Bob,
the Committee was established to remove emotions and to obtain the views
of 3 people and then present the facts.
This meeting was called by Dean and you said you called everyone-I was
not called nor was Bruce.SEE THEY LIE TO SUIT THERE OWN AGENDA We were
previously told the lawyer would need to be here and the Sheriff and then when
this meeting was called you didn’t feel we needed them present. Dean, this
meeting was supposed to be the first week of July. That was the decision made. We also left the meeting believing
the Police committee consisted of Bruce and John Myers. Bruce went off and formed his own Police
Commission.
John Haan, I
may be the Park & Recreation chairman but before I do anything I want to
ask to avoid problems and that is not the way Bruce is doing things. This survey is ready and none of us had
anything to do with it, nor had we seen it until this meeting was called. John Myers is on the committee and he was
not involved in the survey. Bruce
should have contacted John Myers. He says the survey will be totally
confidential- does he not trust the rest of the Board. I don’t trust him.
Bob, we keep
hearing people have fear and are afraid to speak. Pat, they are so you are
going to keep it from the Board.
Dean, the
people are given the choice to put their name on the survey and if they want to
be protected they will not sign it.
Bruce doesn’t trust us and we don’t trust him.SO FAR YOUR CREDIBILITY IS NILL.YOU BREAK STATE STATUES,LIE,AND REFUSE TO ABIDE BY THE LAWS. The surveys will not be
any part of any decisions if the entire Board is not included. Larry questioned if John Myers sees the
surveys too would that be OK? Dean, we all need to see the surveys so there is
no appearance of stuffing the results and they want to read them record them
and destroy them. Pat, Bruce has called
me a liar too.
Bob, if we have
a Board with no trust we are never going to get along. Amy, Bob is with
Bruce. Bob, Bruce and I meet with the
Sheriff yesterday. John Haan, why
wasn’t John Myers included? Bob, the Sheriff said he wanted to meet with the
Mayor and the Police Chairman. Amy Haan, show us were that is in writing. Bob,
we asked for guidance. Bill Somers, is
the Sheriff going to talk to the entire Board? Pat, did you ask him to come?
Bob, we do not know what we want- are we requesting a quote or guidance. Maybe we should have a full-time Police
Chief and both the Village and Township needs to kick in more money.
Bob, this Board
has taken no directions in any department- nothing water & sewer, park
& recreation, police, Streets and alley, etc. Dean, we had to fight to get
John Haan seated on the Board. There
was no interest at the bid opening.
Amy Haan, you
should have responded to the water tower and you didn’t. Bob, I got a call from Austin and I know
nothing about the water tower and I instructed him to call the man who knows.
Pat, you don’t know anything about Police but you get involved. Bob, I told
Austin to call Paul Loete of MSA Professional Services. There was nothing I could do.
Bill Somers,
Mr. Wood has his survey but did he talk to Hager, Marsden, Streeter or my
neighbor.WELL WE SEE WHAT THERE MADE OF HUH SOMERS?JULIE LIED,STREETER HAS BEEN ARRESTED AS HAS MARSTEN SINCE THEN,,,YOUR JUST MAD I PUSHED YOUR SONS ARREST. They are issuing tickets the
day after.HEY EINSTEIN STATE STATUES SAY YOU HAVE 18 MONTHS OF MISD AND 3 YRS ON FELONY.MAN HES RICH! He has not talked to me
either. I have complaints through my
facebook page. Who has he contacted? Larry, ask Bruce. Bob, you will have just
that opportunity at Wednesday’s meeting.
John Myers, I
found out about the Police Commission in my water bill. Pat, Bruce also claims 4 Board members had
an illegal meeting and I resent that!
John Myers, we have had some spirited discussions and we did not have an
illegal meeting and he needs to prove it-when, where and the source of his
information.
Jim Hines, the
surveys is anonymous –fear of retaliation.LOL GOOD OLE HINES,LAW BREAKER HIMSELF. THE THING WITH TIME, IS USALLY REVEALS MOTIVES:) Bob, that is what Pat says. Jim
if retaliation is a factor that tells me we have a problem.PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF RETALIATION FROM YOU AND BOARD MEMBERS. What if we have a major problem-nuclear,
chemical, industrial catastrophic concern?
The Police Department needs to be the front line and no one will trust
them. If people fear retaliation we have a major problem. Will the citizens be
given a time for their opinions Wednesday?
John Haan, we were not aware of Wednesday’s meeting until tonight
ourselves. Jim, I have documentation of
things the officers have said about me. The officers need to be questioned
about their statements before questioned under oath. I have personally heard
the officers talk about under-cover activity in public and with people who
should have no knowledge of such.
John Haan
questioned if Bruce had spoken to Jim Hines?
Jim, he has talked to Scott Gardner, my boss at the Dragstrip. The dragstrip has always had a great working
relationship with the Cordova Police Department. Last weekend we could not
contact the Cordova Police DepartmentWELL LETS SEE HOW THAT WORKS FOR YOU NOW, SINCE THERE'S NO POLICE DEPARTMENT:) and had to contact Rock Island
County. Richard Wallen and Bobby were
working security and needed assistance.
Ryan did show up and did a great job but we then got a call from
Goossen’s and were told Cordova Police Department would not come on the
Dragstrip grounds until Rock Island County gets thereHERE HE LIES, BUT THEN DRUGGIES DO THAT. Bob, this is the first I
have heard of this situation. Jim Hines, the officers need to be here so we can
hear their side-are they going to be at Wednesday’s meeting?
John Myers,
there is also come confusion with “Committee and Commission”. Also anytime a
meeting is held to discuss police policy it needs to be a public meeting. If
business is being discussed and/or conducted it needs to be a public meeting.
Pat, out of respect all meetings need to be posted. John Myers, what is a public meeting and the requirements for
posting?
Larry, Dean
and I will be discussing applicant reviews for the maintenance position and if
John Haan wants to be involved we would have to post it. Bob, the Planning Commission meetings are
posted –the last meeting there were 3 Board members and the Mayor in
attendance. Pat, we are getting away
from the issue. Bob noted he and Larry
had meet with the contractors on the ditch work than went to the Board. Jim Hines, this is not the same-we are
talking about the Police Department and not a ditch project. The Police Department
needs to be transparent-open to the public.
John Myers
questioned if Bob was part of the Police Committee? Bob, I am ex-official member of all committees. I should have been consulted before he put
Jon Kavanaugh orHERE IS A TYPICAL JOHN MYERS FIT..
Rochelle on the Committee. You can
appoint who ever you want on the Planning and Zoning Boards and you need to
include people outside of your circle.
Bob, the Board has the right to object to any appointment made and if there is no objection I take it as being
a consent.
Bob, Bruce has
taken the lead and did the research- someone has to lead.
Dean
Moyer, I am making a motion that all committees will consist of 2 Board
members. The Illinois Municipal
Handbook says I appoint the committee and the Board approves. Larry, I do think we need the co-chairman on
each committee. John Haan, Bruce needs to be told that. Bob, the motion is a moot point as we have
already agreed that there would be 2 Board members on all committees. Pat, this
needs to be acted on.
Dean, Bruce told us that John Myers is not on the Committee.
Bob, you said you didn’t care if Bruce couldn’t be here. John Haan, it should had been the Police
Chair calling the meeting. Bill Somers,
Bruce is a bad person for a Police Chairman.
Bob, you
could had called me too when you set your original meeting for Thursday and
choose not to. I got my first notification of the meeting from the media
wanting to know what the meeting was for.
Amy, you need to reprimand the Clerk for not letting you know there was
a meeting. Bob, you could had picked up the phone and called me.
Larry, we
need to review the minutes of the Committee appointments and co chairs.
John Haan, we
had 4 Board members and an Attorney telling you to swear me in and you refused
just like there are 5 votes to dismiss Ryan and you veto the motion. Bob, I am letting you have the right to
override also.
John Myers
noted that since he has returned from vacation Bruce has been corresponding
with him and we are not always on the same page. I have asked for assistance
with finances. He did have my cell phone contact information and I had my
laptop and was able to communicate by internet also.
Ken McCool, I
have contacted Bruce personally and the rest of you need to also so that he is
aware of your situation or concern before Wednesday night so he can look into
them. Do not assume he is aware-call him.
Julie Hager, I
have brought my concerns to the Board many times and even my attorney but
nothing happens. If I go to Bruce will something happen? Gaines contacts my
daughter. Bob, he was reprimanded and
instructed not to use the Village or Police Department in his contact. Julie questioned how many times he would be
reprimanded before he is let go. I am not the only one complaining. Bob, New
Year’s Eve was taken care of in the court system. Julie they watch our house from the burm in the sewer lagoon and
nothing gets done.
Pat, I have
been harassed and warned I was being watched. I am tired of the emails and antics. Bruce didn’t feel I was harasses and I know
Bob encouraged that. The Police
presence needs to be peaceful and the people don’t need to fear
them. They are throwing people to the
ground. Bruce is on his big white horse
and he has not been threatened.
Bill Somers,
this is not Chicago. A Police Force used force and we are a Police Department
which is different. Julie Hager, I seen
the force used with my son and I knew it would get worse if it was not
handled. I still have nightmares-the
force and the use of mace. Amy, and he wants a taser!
John Myers, we
need to look up the definition of “Commission and Committee”. If we have created a commission we have
created a new entity. Bob, where is the
problem? Pat, when I got the water bill with the newsletter I asked myself if I
was even on the Board?
Jim Hines
questioned why Ryan was not fired when he went after an elected official you
fired Rich? Bob, that is under investigation and I am not going to talk about
it. Jim questioned if there is any investigation on Pat’s complaints? Bob, he has printed documentation. Jim, your
ignorance and ego fill this room! You’re an ass!
John Haan, Bruce
told me he has no knowledge of a State investigation. Bob, it is easy to beat someone up when they are not present.
John Haan, I want
the police officers here Wednesday night to answer questions from the public.
Larry, if we are requesting their presence we need to pay them. John Haan, we need Ray and Ryan here and if
the others want to come it’s fine. Pat, we need to have the attorney here also. Bob, we can request that the attorney attend
the meeting and instruct the officers to be here. Amy, if they don’t show it is insubordination.
A motion was made to adjourn
the meeting at 7:50PM by Larry Dhooge and 2nd by John Myers. Meeting adjourned.